Before We Rise, We Must First Descend w/ Francis Weller (074)

December 16, 2021

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Why do men often have to hit bottom before we’re able to make meaningful changes in our lives?

Could our cultural obsession with the individual self be propelling us towards our collective doom?

Could learning how to properly grieve be key to our vitality, to living a rich, soul-centered life?

Well, in this very special episode, my guest Francis Weller, and I mine these questions and more for useful insights to make a meaningful difference in your life.

And this is a very special episode. For about the last year, I’ve been diving down the Francis Weller rabbit hole, and if you haven’t yet, I’m telling you, you need to. Humanity needs you to. This man is a medicine carrier for humanity.

I first discovered him a year ago when a good friend of mine turned me onto his book,

The Wild Edge of Sorrow. That book is the one of the most beautiful, poignant, rich and instructive books I’ve ever read. Now, it’s not merely a book about grieving in the way we traditionally think of grieving in our western culture, as if grieving is something that only happens when we experience a major and obvious loss in our lives – which by the way, we don’t even do that well in our culture – but Francis’ book is about ways of creating soul renewal by recasting grieving in our culture as essential routine practice to ensure not just our individual health and well-being, but the health and well-being of our entire community, and of the planet itself.

Francis’ work is immense.

In a world of many olders but too few elders, particularly elder men, Francis Weller is a true wise elder. And he’s super easy to talk with. For more than 30 years he’s been a psychotherapist, a writer, and soul-activist. He is a master of synthesizing diverse streams of thought, from psychology, anthropology, mythology, alchemy, indigenous cultures, and poetic traditions. The core of his work is creating pathways to reclaiming our indigenous soul, what psychologist Carl Jung called the “unforgotten wisdom” that resides in the heart of the psyche. He’s the founder of WisdomBridge, an organization that offers educational programs that seek to integrate the wisdom from traditional cultures with the insights and knowledge gathered from Western Cultures. I’m so excited for you to hear our conversation.

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Alright, back to my conversation with Francis Weller.

Now, I think I may talk a bit too much in the beginning of this episode with Francis, but I think that’s what sometimes happens when I’m in the presence of a true elder, and I’ve long felt unseen by any true elders.

Anyway, take a deep breath, and stay present with us, all the way through to the end of this beautiful and profound episode of Men, This Way …

Alright …

Let’s dive …


Francis’ Profound Book: The Wild Edge of Sorrow

Francis Official Website














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